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[sign in to see URL]'re baaaack! Finally! Feels like it's been forever since we left our favorite group on the cusp of a major war with Negan and the Saviors.

I thought last night was a kick ass start to Season 8 and a fitting 100th episode. Love that we picked up right where we left off. The flash forwards to old man Rick were a little confusing but I love that they left some room for hope.

Looks like Dwight was legit after all. I was surprised that Daryl actually trusted him as much as he did but at the same time I wasn't [sign in to see URL] is Daryl and that's just the way he is, a decent man at heart, as Carol had said once a long time ago.

Speaking of Carol, it was good to see her fighting alongside the others and it looks like Morgan got over his no killing philosophy in a hurry! Loved the inspirational speeches from everyone, especially King Ezekiel, and absolutely loved the moment when they were facing down Negan and the others and Jesus shouted out "The Hilltop stands with Maggie!" I just wish someone had hauled off and taken out [sign in to see URL] so deserves it!

And just when he finally grew a set poor Fr. Gabriel winds up in the lion's den face to face with Negan. Not a fate I'd wish on anyone.

Again, off to a good [sign in to see URL]'t wait to see what comes next!

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I don't know... felt to me like almost everything going on like you'd expect (aside Gabriel).

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So the war continues this week, with Rick and co. hitting the Savior's various outposts, courtesy of Dwight's insider info. I still wonder just how much they can trust him but so far his info has been spot on.

A couple of interesting developments in the mix...

Apparently King Ezekiel is putting on a happy front to inspire his troops. Carol doesn't seem to agree with that approach but I like it. Ezekiel knows what he's doing and it's worked beautifully so far, so why not go with it? And it was good to see Shiva getting another little, er, snack too!

It was a shock to see Morales [sign in to see URL]'t expected to hear from him again. And really shocking to find out that apparently he's on Negan's side. Dang!

Morgan has certainly gotten over his reluctance to kill in a big way.

And finally there was the whole showdown between Tara and Jesus. While I certainly understand where Jesus was coming from and I agree with him to a point, I really wish he hadn't gone there because you know what the track record is for folks who become the voice of conscience these days. Not good, to say the least. I just have a feeling that whole thing is going to come back to bite them in the butt.

So now I'm interested to see where things go with Morales and we've still got to pick up where we left off with Negan and Gabriel at some point. I have a feeling things are only going to heat up from here.

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A great episode last night with a couple of developments I didn't see coming. Looks like Daryl is in a take no prisoners mood, even with Morales. It was surprising but understandable given everything Negan and the Saviors put him through but I have a feeling things are going to come to a head between him and Rick, especially given a tiny teaser that Norman Reedus let slip on Talking Dead last night.

LOVED the fight between Morgan and Jesus. Damn, Jesus has some epic moves! But have to say I'm getting a little tired of the whole nutso [sign in to see URL] he kill people or won't [sign in to see URL]. It's been done to death by now.

Felt so bad for poor Aaron and Eric. Some outstanding acting by Ross Marquand. And I had the vague thought I wonder if he and Jesus won't end up hooking up? Hmmmm....

Did not see the ambush of King Ezekiel's people [sign in to see URL], I hope enough of them survived to make a go of it!

Maggie should not have let Gregory back [sign in to see URL] was shouting for her not to do it! Not sure she should've let Jesus' captives in either. I understand what he's trying to do but I'm just not sure it's realistic at this point.

Which brings me to the overall theme of morality vs. reality [sign in to see URL] they give over to the "anything to survive" mentality and will that make them like Negan and the Saviors or can they still maintain some thread of humanity? It's an interesting question, can't wait to see how they work at answering it.

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Man, poor King Ezekiel. He was really up against it and I kept expecting Shiva to appear out of nowhere and save him. I was so glad that Jerry survived the massacre and took down that creepy Savior.

Kudos to bad ass Carol for once again putting the enemy on notice. She is not one to be messed with!

Loved the Rick/Daryl road sequence although I thought Daryl might have bought it for a second there when he crashed his bike. And I still want to know just how they were expecting to get the guns out of there in the [sign in to see URL] the back of Daryl's bike?

And finally [sign in to see URL] Shiva. She died a hero's death but it royally sucked. Why do they ALWAYS have to kill the animals?! And really, in this case it shouldn't have been that cut and dried. Given her size, she should've been able to handle a bunch of walkers, toxic or not. Sigh. Now it remains to see how losing her and losing most of his people will effect Ezekiel. Not to mention Jerry. I have a feeling both will be going through some growing pains in the coming days.

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So this week we finally got to see what happened with Negan and Fr. Gabriel and who would've thought that Gabriel could be a bad ass? He sure has come a long way! That being said, I really didn't need the peek into Negan's back story, although it was intriguing thinking of him working with kids before it all began and it explains a lot about how he interacted with Carl and Judith. Also interesting hearing that he couldn't bring himself to kill his wife after she turned.

It'll be intriguing to see what happens now that Eugene is on to Dwight. Will he say something or keep quiet and bide his time? Hmmm... And the reaction of the workers was kind of surprising and disappointing, seeing how quickly they were willing to bow to Negan when he showed back up. I was hoping they'd turn on him and become an asset for Rick and the others, but it seems like they may be a tougher sell than I first thought.

And speaking of [sign in to see URL] was kind of expecting he and Daryl to come to blows at some point but I don't think it'll be an earth shattering moment for them, just a speed bump along the way. At least I sure hope so. But now they've wasted all those weapons they worked so hard to get. When Carol finds out about that she will not be happy!

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An interesting mix of stories this week, focusing on various characters and their reactions to recent events.

First off, Rick has got to be dumb as a box of rocks to go back to Jadis and the garbage dump folks. Clearly they have no loyalty to anyone but themselves, what made him think they'd suddenly have a change of mind? And now he's got himself up !@#$'s [sign in to see URL]! Good going, Rick!

Loved Carol trying to get Ezekiel to come around. He does need to snap out of this funk for his own good if not the good of his people. And I wonder if there isn't a little romance brewing there? Hmmmm....

Carl's little foray into the woods was intriguing. Can this new guy really be trusted? My immediate response is yes. He seems genuine [sign in to see URL] that or he's a really good actor and Carl's going to pay for it when they get back to Alexandria. I sure hope not and I don't blame Carl for trying to do what's right. Once again showing a little more sense than his father at this point!

The Hilltop situation continues to deepen. I understand what Jesus is trying to do, but I'm glad Maggie is keeping a level head about it. You just can't trust the Saviors. Frankly, I'd have killed that one loudmouth already. He's just trouble waiting to happen. And good for her for throwing Gregory in with the prisoners. He deserves no less.

Finally there was Michonne and Rosita on their little road trip. Pretty dumb to go out there when neither one is 100% but at least they held their own. One thing I didn't get, though, how come if the sound of the speaker truck drew them to that building it didn't draw in a mess of walkers too? Seemed like a mis-step on the writers part there. But Rosita kicked ass with the rocket launcher and fortunately Daryl and Tara were there to pick up the slack with the garbage truck, although I continue to worry about Daryl's current mindset. Although he's not entirely wrong about wanting to just end it now, I have a feeling he's going to get himself in trouble again.

Can't believe there are only two episodes left till the mid-season break!

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Well, we're almost to the mid-season finale and it promises to be a good [sign in to see URL] a moment that will leave everyone [sign in to see URL]!

But before we get there, there was this week. Rick continued to bide his time in the shipping container until he was allowed to once [sign in to see URL] a pole monster, this time in his skivvies. Oh and pose for a couple of photos for Jadis. How the hell is she going to develop those things? That whole group remains boring and untrustworthy and I still say Rick is stupid for trusting them. We'll see how long they stay on his side this time.

Meanwhile, Daryl continues on his rebel path. I can understand where he's coming from but I've got a bad feeling about where it's going to lead him. For the moment though, he and Tara succeeded on unleashing the walker horde on the Sanctuary. Don't know how that's going to work out.

Eugene was an eye opener this week. Didn't think he had that in him. Clearly he's looking out for his own interests primarily, which could end up making him more dangerous than even [sign in to see URL] intriguing thought. I was surprised that Dwight didn't shoot him and even more surprised that he didn't give Dwight up. Can't figure out what's going on there.

Michonne is another one who seems to be at a [sign in to see URL] sure of what she should do next. It was interesting to see how everyone was regrouping and figuring out their next move. Now next week things promise to come to a head and if the producers are true to their word it'll come with devastating results. Fasten your seat belts, folks, this promises to be a doozy!

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Bit uneventful, same old same old.
Though Eugene got particularly interesting.

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Well the big mid-season finale did not disappoint. All the various storylines came together and with Negan and the Saviors on the loose, it looks like things are in danger of slipping back to the way they used to be. That was a bit of a disappointment, but our group is still showing signs of not backing down.

Didn't expect to see Alexandria blown to hell and I have to say that was a pretty dumb move by the Saviors as it was by far the nicest accommodations of the three locations.

Good to see King Ezekiel finally back in action, although locking himself in with the Saviors is not exactly a swift idea. I have a feeling Carol will be back to help him and Morgan may be too.

I sure hope Jerry is [sign in to see URL] thought for sure they were going to kill him, gulp!

Eugene continues to surprise. Didn't expect him to help Gabriel and the Doctor escape. Maybe he'll finally turn back to right side of things eventually? Although I'm not holding out hope as long as he keeps putting himself first.

And speaking of [sign in to see URL] of Jadis and her people to run off and leave Rick high and dry. Will they ever come around or will he ever learn not to trust them?

Maggie showed a lot of chutzpah, going back to the Hilltop and shooting the one prisoner as a [sign in to see URL]. And I loved how Lauren Cohan played that, making it obvious that killing did not come easily for Maggie.

Dwight finally broke his cover and now he's a refugee with the rest of the Alexandrians. I was surprised to once again see Daryl opting to trust him, albeit warily. Still can't figure out what's going on in his head, but he was obviously guilt ridden thinking the Saviors getting out was his fault. At least he got his angel wings vest [sign in to see URL]!

And then there was Carl. Can't say it came as a complete shock, as there was enough buzz going around to make me suspicious that Chandler Riggs wanted off the show. Can't really blame him as he's been on there for half his life. But I didn't expect things to go down exactly the way they did. Standing up to Negan and offering to give his life for everyone else's was a [sign in to see URL] Negan as much as anyone. First time I ever remember seeing Negan genuinely caught off guard. And taking control and getting everyone into the sewers was a pretty gutsy move. He sure has matured since his days as the pesky kid who never did as he was told! And the final shot when he revealed the walker bite was just so well done. Now we'll have to see how it plays out and how both Rick and Michonne are affected by it. Something tells me it's actually going to be harder on Michonne than Rick. She seems in a more fragile state of mind these days.

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